chris: what was the reaction by the pentagon the fact we have rules already. the rules are it has to be imminent attack, the person has to be involved in imminent strikes against the united states, and we can't bring him or her to trial and they do have protocols. >> there's a lot of murkiness within an attack. it's a very murky definition, and what defines an imminent attack. i wanted to talk about class value damage which is civilian casualties and i think, yes, the drones do save american lives but there's a lot of -- there's a lot of civilian casualties and they're not as accurate all the time as the pentagon or c.i.a. says. we heard a story this week about a very brave cleric in yemen who stood up in his mosque and denounced al qaeda, two days later some al qaeda guys come to visit him and they're arguing outside and they're incinerated in the drone attack. one of these guys was on the u.s. side. so not only is class value damage but also creates a -- collateral damage but also creates a lot of resentment. >> families and children killed, especially in no